πͺπΈ π Columbus first made contact with the TaΓno people who were very gracious and honorable. The TaΓno were truly fearful of the Carib tribes. Columbus' first contact with the π Carib people revealed both the inhumane captivity of their indigenous slavery and cannibalism.π¦΅π½π₯ πΆπ» π₯ (Admiral of the Ocean Sea - Samuel Eliot Morison) β³βπΌπΊπ²ββ¨π§π
The americas had many cultures, there is a legend among certain Plains Tribes that the Tonkawa were sometimes cannibals. (The Ordeal of Running Standing -Thomas Fall)
Would you agree that what the Spanish Conquistadors and Portuguese did to the Americas .... namely invasion, conquest, cultural genocide, physical genocide, genetic insertion, and ultimately wholesale linguistic and civilizational replacement ... was exactly what Roman Conquistadors did to the Iberian Peninsula starting with the Scipios with their invasion of Carthaginian held Spain during the 2nd Punic War culminating in the creation of the Provinces of Hispania and Lusitania and the settlement of Pompey's discharged legionaries? The ancestors of the Spaniards and Portuguese, those mysterious CeltiIberians and unnamed indigenous peoples became victims of everything their Conquistador descendants would one day do to the Amerindians?? And just like there are remnant native American speakers like the Maya, nahuatl, Quechua, in northern Spain we have the remnant Basque speakers living in a sea of Latin Romance speakers. The Romans even mined Spain to death and sucked out all its gold, leaving the gold hungry Spaniards to do the same to the Americas a thousand years later.
Even before the Romans, the Iberian lands experienced a genocide that dwarfs anything that happened in the Americas. Modern Iberians are literally the children of the perpetrators and victims of the genocide.
I'd totally agree that those were pretty similar situations. Of course, different circumstances, nothing in history is ever the exact thing as any other thing, but certainly comparable approaches. Actually, for the Spaniards in the Americas the Roman invasion of Spain was seen as a precedent in that it established a balance of rights and obligations for the conquerors themselves.
πͺπΈ π Columbus first made contact with the TaΓno people who were very gracious and honorable. The TaΓno were truly fearful of the Carib tribes. Columbus' first contact with the π Carib people revealed both the inhumane captivity of their indigenous slavery and cannibalism.π¦΅π½π₯ πΆπ» π₯ (Admiral of the Ocean Sea - Samuel Eliot Morison) β³βπΌπΊπ²ββ¨π§π
The americas had many cultures, there is a legend among certain Plains Tribes that the Tonkawa were sometimes cannibals. (The Ordeal of Running Standing -Thomas Fall)
I am always amazed at the parallels in history.
Would you agree that what the Spanish Conquistadors and Portuguese did to the Americas .... namely invasion, conquest, cultural genocide, physical genocide, genetic insertion, and ultimately wholesale linguistic and civilizational replacement ... was exactly what Roman Conquistadors did to the Iberian Peninsula starting with the Scipios with their invasion of Carthaginian held Spain during the 2nd Punic War culminating in the creation of the Provinces of Hispania and Lusitania and the settlement of Pompey's discharged legionaries? The ancestors of the Spaniards and Portuguese, those mysterious CeltiIberians and unnamed indigenous peoples became victims of everything their Conquistador descendants would one day do to the Amerindians?? And just like there are remnant native American speakers like the Maya, nahuatl, Quechua, in northern Spain we have the remnant Basque speakers living in a sea of Latin Romance speakers. The Romans even mined Spain to death and sucked out all its gold, leaving the gold hungry Spaniards to do the same to the Americas a thousand years later.
Fascinating parallels.
Even before the Romans, the Iberian lands experienced a genocide that dwarfs anything that happened in the Americas. Modern Iberians are literally the children of the perpetrators and victims of the genocide.
https://www.ikerbasque.net/en/news/new-finding-migratory-flows-iberian-peninsula
I'd totally agree that those were pretty similar situations. Of course, different circumstances, nothing in history is ever the exact thing as any other thing, but certainly comparable approaches. Actually, for the Spaniards in the Americas the Roman invasion of Spain was seen as a precedent in that it established a balance of rights and obligations for the conquerors themselves.